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| Author: fil on April 25 2007 Viewed 11850 times. 4 people liked this blog. You can rate it below if you haven't already.
From engadget: link
So in addition to dropping a couple of high-capacity disks this morning, Samsung also gave us some interesting (albeit, depressing) insight into their thoughts on Solid State Disk penetration. Big stuff when you consider Samsung's pioneering role to supplant traditional 1.8-inch hard disk drives with flash-lovin' SSDs. We've already heard from Sandisk that SSD prices should fall by about 60% annually. Nice, but SSDs are currently 5x the cost of their mechanical brethren: $7.5/GB compared to $1.4/GB for HDDs. Even by 2010, Samsung (backed by DataQuest research) still estimates at least a 3.x gap: $1.9/GB for SSDs vs $0.9/GB for HDDs according to Hwang's law. In other words, we'll be paying a significant premium for flash memory's lickity quick boots and greater reliability long into the future. Still, a 128GB SSD for $243? Give us two, please.
So 128 Gb SSD for $243?
I too, want 2.
Awesome!
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04/26/07
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kyone
I'd be happy with a 64G at todays prices... 32G is too small for Vista (15G for the operating system alone)
Hurry up Samsung !!
04/26/07
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GreatDane
And I for one want one.
04/26/07
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ronaldheld
Sure, in the next FS.
05/01/07
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educationk12
Currently, the 64GB drives are too big for umpc devices. Engadget has been saying the prices are going to be cheap since January. I researched it further and what I found was that large laptops will get the cheap drives that are bigger than 32GB, but meanwhile nobody has even designed a 64gb or larger drive for UMPC products. I have two 32gb SSD drives...they really aren't as lightning fast as the hype around them...and it shows up as 28GB...32Gbytes. You won't see that big of a performance jump in a umpc...slightly better battery life and no noise and less heat but overall it isn't worthy of the hype that surrounds it for a UMPC. I could see the performance jump in something like a Santa Rosa laptop but my umpc ssd computers seem slow.
edited: May 16 2007
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fil
A couple of sites show that 1.8" SSDs are available at 8mm thickness:
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PQI Turbo Industrial 1.8" solid state disk drives, 7mm height, 16GB, 1.8" ORDER IDE $899 ORDER IDE $949: link
Dell 32GB SSD 1.8" x 8mm drive: link
Now these are all too thick for the OQO, BUT they do fit in the Sony UX and maybe the FlipStart and other current handtops.
I'm sure a smart UMPC vendor will see the need for the 8mm SSD drive and accommodates for the space requirement.
05/01/07
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kyone
That 128G $300 was just speculation, based on projections of current technology. 64G is due out this quarter from Samsung and should fit in the OQO 02 with physical size, not sure about the connector.
The new Samsung 64G are faster then the 32G. Most performance increase should be seen at booting. That is when most data is read into the main memory from the HDD.
edited: May 03 2007
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educationk12
kyone said: "That 128G $300 was just speculation, based on projections of current technology. 64G is due out this quarter from Samsung and should fit in the OQO 02 with physical size, not sure about the connector.
The new Samsung 64G are faster then the 32G. Most performance increase should be seen at booting. That is when most data is read into the main memory from the HDD."
Yeh, that is why I am annoyed with Engadget's "news" on SSD drives...they are throwing out prices that don't put it into perspective. How much faster are the 64G than the 32G? What is the thickness of the 64G...I find this hard to believe...but would love to be wrong!!!! Do you have a link or some more info...I'm interested!
edited: May 03 2007
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educationk12
fil said: "A couple of sites show that 1.8" SSDs are available at 8mm thickness:
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PQI Turbo Industrial 1.8" solid state disk drives, 7mm height, 16GB, 1.8" ORDER IDE $899 ORDER IDE $949: link
Dell 32GB SSD 1.8" x 8mm drive: link
Now these are all too thick for the OQO, BUT they do fit in the Sony UX and maybe the FlipStart and other current handtops.
Also, I can't find the thread, but there was an engadget post stating that the 128 Gb 1.8" SSD wasn't too far away for about $300.
I'm sure a smart UMPC vendor will see the need for the 8mm SSD drive and accommodates for the space requirement."
I researched SSD drives thoroughly around March 22nd...granted a lot can change in such a technology, I seriously doubt a 128GB thin SSD drive will be out anytime soon for $300....in fact, I would even doubt one would be available at all...although I wish I was wrong. I won't every go back to spinning drives for my computer for the OS and apps, but I do want to warn people to know that the hype around SSD drives is different than reality and I'm using hard drive intensive programs such as SQL. When the 03 comes out with a dual-cor processor then you'll find that the SSD drive is heavenly, but I suspect that VIA processor is going to be bland like the Samsung Q1 is...with that said, I suspect those with a UX390N find the SSD as fast...at first I was annoyed with OQO for not offering the option, but at this point I kinda think it would be a waste of money to pay $500 more for an OQO with a 32gb ssd drive due to the processor while I think it is good to have one with the Sony. And this is coming from someone who plans to put a SSD drive in the 02 as soon as it arrives in June. Clearly SSD drives are the future so tech companies are rushing to make the bucks...it's a neat technology but for those one the fence of spending the money...well, it's nice but ultimately is worth waiting for the prices to drop which I don't think will happen as soon as Engadget is touting. So based on my research, I decided Engadget was full of it and to go ahead and buy them now as I suspect the dropping prices and higher GB for an OQO device is far in the future...and I realized I would be waiting for much longer than I could handle...hmmm....anyway, I call BS for Engadget...prove me wrong, please! You might see cheap SSD drives for notebooks but not for UMPC and especially not thin drives for the OQO...again, wishing I were wrong and things have changed.
I guess my biggest worry is I'm not even sure if the 32GB SSD drives that I have will fit into the OQO. Hopefully the drive will fit. One of them I'm going to put into the Santa Rosa IBM T61 which is coming out in a couple of weeks...supposedly which will answer my processor speed hindering the perceived speed of the drive.
05/04/07
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kyone
Here is a link to the article
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05/24/07
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Jope
educationk12 said: "slightly better battery life and no noise and less heat but overall it isn't worthy of the hype that surrounds it for a UMPC. I could see the performance jump in something like a Santa Rosa laptop but my umpc ssd computers seem slow."
I don't care about the speed, as long as it isn't slower than a mechanical drive.
But what about the battery life? Slightly means what? 30min? 15min? 1 hour?
I'd consider installing one in my OQO 02 too, if it does indeed give more time.
05/25/07
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fil
If you want more info on SSDs versus traditional hard drives here's a great article: link
06/01/07
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Jope
Ok, thanks. :-)
06/01/07
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pathal
anyone see this 256GB 2.5" solid state drive that can do 60MB/s. link
No cost listed though but it shows the potential.
edited: Jun 05 2007
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fil
The 2.5" SSD won't fit into any current handtop, only the 1.8".
The cheapest 32 Gb SSD that is in stock is $480 here: link
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