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Raon Digital Gets Serious w/First 64-bit Dual Core Handtop
StoreTags: X2, Turion64, 64-bit, Raon Digital
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How would you like a handtop powered by a AMD Turion64 X2 Processor?
Raon Digital hasn't officially announced it as yet and but it looks like they have one upped everyone else in the Handtop sphere with the world's first 64-bit Dual Core Handtop. If released, this will be the most powerful 7-incher and the most powerful handtop to date for the consumer market.
Yes that's right... AMD Turion64 X2 in a handtop!
A bit of video here and specs so far:
-7 inch 1280x600/1024x600 touch screen
-AMD Turion64X2 TL-56 (1.8GHz) or (Sempron 3700) - Confirmed
1GB/2GB RAM
-60/80GB HDD
-optical mouse pointer and buttons
-2 x USB and one mini USB
-audio in/out
-VGA out
-2.5 hour battery life while playing videos
-about 200mm x 120mm x 25mm
(Via jkkmobile)
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06/09/08
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snowviper
Nice,
What is that computer that next to the system (white one)?
edited: Jun 15 2008
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diJenerate
@snowviper
I have no clue, I assume some other variant of the same with a slightly larger screen or a completely different Raon Digital entry. I do know I'll be first in line for this one though to replace my aged UX and it's poor battery life. What I hope is that with these Turion64 units, they factored in the heat that the Turion produces considering this is a handtop and that they have lent it some of the superior battery life talents of its older siblings.
They get those two, and we have an absolute winner no questions asked. I know Sony is cooking up something for release this summer as a successor to the UX, but unless this thing has a flexible OLED screen and 4GB RAM with 12 hours of battery life and a Dual Core 64 bit that can beat the Turion, I'd have to say hello Raon and bye bye UX!
diJenerate
07/07/08
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2disbetter
I don't find this that revolutionary. I mean the thing is bigger than every other serious competitor. It wont fit in a pocket, and it doesn't look like it would be easy to use on the go. And as of right now, it's still a pipe dream. I would think something like this, if it was real, would be receiving a bit more hype. It's too big, is my bottom line. Great advance in technology, but is it really? Try to put that in a oqo form factor and then we can celebrate.
2d
edited: Aug 12 2008
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diJenerate
Specs have been made official and according to Aving.net we're looking at:
CPU AMD Turion 64x2 Dual Core 1.2GHz, 1MB L2 Cache
Graphic ATI RS690E +64MB DDR2 Side port Memory, Full DirectX 9.0 support
Memory 1GB DDR2
OS Microsoft Window XP Home
Display 7
Dual moniter supporting external display up to 1920x1200
Storage 60GB 1.8 inch HDD/UDMA100
Wireless Connectivity 802.11b/g WiFi, Bluetooth 2.0 with EDR
Camera 1.3M pixel CMOS
Media Card SD/MMC Slot
Audio ALC262 HD Audio
Expansion Slot 2xUSB host, 1 x USB mini, 1x mini PCIExpress Slot, USIM card slot &l
Battery life 2.5 Hours for web-surfing
Size 200(W)x 118(H)x 27.5(D) mm
and given this thing has a SIM card slot, there is possibly a 3G option as well... I think my only question now is going to be if I will notice the increased performance for my usage model of this unit over a Samsung Q1Ultra Premium which gives almost 6-hours of battery with the same screen size and rez and 2GB Ram ... hmmm
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edited: Sep 18 2008
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diJenerate
2disbetter said: "I don't find this that revolutionary. I mean the thing is bigger than every other serious competitor. It wont fit in a pocket, and it doesn't look like it would be easy to use on the go. And as of right now, it's still a pipe dream. I would think something like this, if it was real, would be receiving a bit more hype. It's too big, is my bottom line. Great advance in technology, but is it really? Try to put that in a oqo form factor and then we can celebrate.
2d"
I disagree on two points, it is smaller than the Q1U Premium from Samsung which until now was the most powerful UMPC on the market and secondly, Raon doesn't need hype and gimmicks to sell a device that will practically sell itself. This machins is now the most powerful UMPC available and the review has proven it. I only have one concern which is more important to me than size and that is the 1GB RAM vs 2GB issue.
Further to the point, I own a Vaio UX which is significantly more powerful than the OQO 02 and a bit bigger and I'd have to say that even that isn't powerful enough to be 'the only comouer I need'... addtionally, the Vaio travels well on my belt at its size and I know of some people who have no problem travelling with the Q1U all day every day...
As far as new technologies and great advances, the OQO wasn't a great tech advancement, it was a great manufacturing and marketing advancement since the technology that made that a possiblity had existed about half a decade before their first prototype was shown but just was not feasible to mass produce cheaply enough to make a consumer product and the consumer grade OS it needed was not mature enough...
The next great advancement in this area in manufacturing and marketing will be at the release of a flexible OLED based UMPC with 24hr battery life, but again that tech exists today even though a consumer grade product using it won't appear for another five years at least...
The key with a machine like this is to have something that is great for the usage model being targetted, not just in theory but in actual use so the Raon becuse it has the power can actually be 'the only computer I need' is affordable and smaller than other existing UMPCs that can easily be transported (and are daily by their users) and realistically takes into account the fact that the users with aging eyes are more interested in a screen that is sized based on actual use rather than 'because we can'.
I personally think that the OQO is potentially a great product, but the lack of power, and the lack of keeping up with current trends and tech deployments (ie, dated processor, screen rez and Ram configurations and lack of dynamic development model to allow upgrades mid model rather than relying on redesigns) are the failure of the product and really the fault of the corporate admin more than R&D and Engineering.
OQO needs to make their design more dynamic where at this point they should be able to add to the offerings/options (like mainstream manufacturers do) the same model but with config upgrades for screen, RAM, audio, I/O options, battery types (not just capacity but other technologies) etc.
The next OQO if built on the Intel garbage processor (ATOM) will be the death of the product line. We are past the point where we go 'ooh' and 'ahh' at the size of the unit and would like a unit that size to contain a machine we can, and actually want to use (for everything) daily for the price paid.
I would not want to spend >USD1k on a pretty, shiny, 800x480 rez based, CALCULATOR in 2008/2009... and as far as I can tell, all the atom based machines so far have been over-rated Graphing Calculators in their performance!
In my personal portable machine usage, I only shutdown or reboot my O.S. after software upgrades if at all necessary and the rest of the time, the system goes from Suspend to ON and back to suspend over and over for months at a time. I have firefox (yes the RAM leaker) open during this time with sometimes as many as 22 tabs based on what projects I am involved in or what web interfaces or sites I and constantly using on the go.
This is more practical and far more convenient for me as in my field I am usually simultaneously involved in many projects of my company which may not be directly related and constantly on the road so quick access while on a customer site or on the phone is key and my system needs to be powerful and reliable enough to handle this usage scenario...(ideally always on like a machine based on .arm architecture can be but so far has proven not feasible).
Additionally, I am not always indoors nor always on solid ground so it needs to be useable under those conditions but not necessarily MILSPEC or Industrial grade because after hours on on a flight, I may use it to watch a movie or stream digital TV from home all the while having work apps open in the background with projects that may still be work in progress.
If I decide to load photoshop while my 22 tabs are open, I shouldn't see the system drop to a crawl or freeze/crash even before I get the file loaded and when I have finished the image edit, and I disconnect from the large display, I should not have to spend a great amount of time waiting for it to catch up with the change in configuration.
Additonally, with enough storage and maybe a WSVGA pico projector onboard, a portable system with Everun Note power and 2~3GB RAM running with a sunlight viewable WSVGA internal 5.5~7-inch screen on the existing OQO platorm only needs to have >6hours battery life or 3hrs+ with a Toshiba rapid charge battery (whcih reaches 80% charge in under a minute) to replace all my machines and all the machines used by most of my company's executives, engineers and web developers.... something to ponder OQO.
As it seems however, that this is not the direction OQO is going in, the Everun Note will be my Vaio UX's successor.
diJenerate
11/18/08
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primaz
The device looks good but I agree looking at the specs it is not pocketable but it is close; the width is 4.64" and most jackets can only max handle 4" to 4.25". The length is fine but just should be a bit narrower to make it a real hot product. There has yet to be a true touch type keyboard pocket PC with full Windows OS; that is what the UMPC market needs to get mainstream sales.
It is the form factor which is more key than the processors. I use the Sharp D4 and it is an Atom and the performance is fine for me. What is still missing is something more like a modern Psion 5mx so you can touch type into it easy and that way it can be a primary PC on the go not just a cool toy.
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