Handtops, UMPC - Podcast with Jory Bell.

04/24/06 + tnkgrl

It's here.

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Enjoy

04/30/06 + mensrea

Ditto Meansquare. My PPCs are collecting dust.

Moreover, though I have always been a big PPC fan, CPCs dual OS "solution" is a dead end and frankly with the launch of UMPCs, more powerful WM5 phones and the DC OQO battery its obsolescence is already nigh. Timing is everything.

05/01/06 + slickster

tnk and lets see.. If you put the OQO in hibernate can you do that for days on days? Nope. That is where the Windows Mobile functionality helps me. 90% of my use is calendar, contacts, email, viewing word, excel, ppt files. I wouldnt need to powerup the cPC for that. And BTW all of my Pocketpc's powerup in a nanosecond so i dont know how old your's are but lets be honest.

05/01/06 + titus

I've been deploying large scale PDA deployments over the last 6 years and we did a pilot on HP TC1100's. You could put a piece of software on it that allowed it to sync to your Outlook (provided you use Outlook) calendaring, etc, to make it boot up just memory in a second or two to get to the data like a PDA. Most of the things our students needed was not Outlook, so that wasn't so helpful. Some of the software they use is Palm or PPC only (ie: no windows). So, my first comment is I've learned that one size never fits all. That's good and bad. Good from the standpoint that you can now find "niche" devices that fit exactly your needs and other devices fit exactly other people's needs. Bad in the support category (unless your management is willing to spring for every new device so you can become an expert on it). It goes round and round on these forums constantly where people argue the value of each product. Simple answer is find what works for you. Forget about what doesn't, cuz it never will.

I for one am awaiting the time to buy some OQO's and CPC's and do comparisons. I've had contact with DualCor and am awaiting further financial discussions (not personally, through my company). I've asked that we be part in their early adopter program. I like the idea of the dual functionality for my students and their needs. For my needs, I've been extremely happy with my HP tablet. Some people don't like going wihtout a keyboard . I love going without (as long as my battery lasts), because I take a lot of notes, sketches, etc. However, my students can't go without long because their software doesn't have good inking abilities. Which brings me to my second comment, which is that adoption of these tablets, umpcs, etc, will rely highly on their ability to incorporate stuff that's needed and can't be provided any other way. Handwriting is great for taking notes for me, but that's about it. I'd like to be able to do away with all paper forms and institute inking for anything that requires a form to be filled in by a patient, customer, etc. When that happens, then they will be suddenly very valuable to many areas..

Having said all that, I think the OQO is a great device, isofar as I've never actually gotten to purchase one yet.

A major issue with our TC1100 pilot was the size was not easy to deal with. The OQO solves that issue, but it won't run PPC programs... which is why i'm waiting to see what the cPC has to offer, and other related UMPC's as they are released.

Titus

05/01/06 + harry

What has this thread become.
Its gone from Jory talk with tnkgrl to slickster's PDA evangilism.

slickster, what exactly are you trying to say ? That I should trade my oqo for an hp4700 ?

05/01/06 + kyone

slickster said: "tnk and lets see.. If you put the OQO in hibernate can you do that for days on days? Nope."

why not ? in Hibernate you can leave it off for weeks on weeks.

I don't think seconds or nanoseconds make all that much of a difference (with standby). The power of a full operating system is what it is all about. If you use your computing device 90% of the time for viewing docs and contacts sort of stuff then the OQO is not what you are looking for. Stick with windows mobile devices.

The OQO is ideal for what it is intended for.

edited: May 01 2006 + jobjob

kyone, i can`t leave my 01 more than two days in this mode until the battery is dead.
don`t know, what is the max hibernation time for 01+, but this was posted as an answer from oqo for the 01:
“When the OQO is left in hibernate mode there remain subtle processes that still occur, including maintaining the unit in a half-way "turned-on" state. If left this way for about 72 hours or similar prolonged period of time the battery level may certainly reach near the end of it's charge capacity. Keep in mind there also exist slight degrees of variability from battery to battery, due to the uniqueness of each battery. If indeed you are looking to conserve more useful battery time, it may be best to turn the OQO off altogether if it's going to remain idle over a longer period.”

05/01/06 + kyone

there are no subtle processes that still occur, you can remove the battery altogether. The OQO might have some internal resistances when turned off that might drain the battery, all batteries have internal resistance that cause slight drain but it is very insignificant.

Battery drain in hibernation should not be any more/less then battery drain while turned off.

edited: May 01 2006 + 2disbetter

slickster said: "tnk and lets see.. If you put the OQO in hibernate can you do that for days on days? Nope. That is where the Windows Mobile functionality helps me. 90% of my use is calendar, contacts, email, viewing word, excel, ppt files. I wouldnt need to powerup the cPC for that. And BTW all of my Pocketpc's powerup in a nanosecond so i dont know how old your's are but lets be honest."

I can see why your upset now. You don't really use a computer. You could very well stay with a PPC and be just fine. I myself spend 90% of my time not doing any of that stuff. I need a real computer to do what I do. That is what the oqo is all about to begin with. It is a real computer.

You can't code on a PPC, you can't work on 3d art on a ppc, and the list goes on.

For me a 3 seconds boot time from standby is lighting fast. For me a min 30 from a cold start is wicked fast. I mean i can have a computer anywhere i want.

Sure a PDA is fast in terms of on and off time, but its like comparing a toy train set too a real one.

I'm am glad your so enthusiatic about the cpc, but I don't think you understand the full scope of what the win xp side of the house in both the oqo and cpc are intended for.

I honestly think you would be better off with a supped up PPC.

I think this is also the same reason why Jory doesn't really feel that threatened by the cpc. It is in essence catering to a slightly different crowd.

05/01/06 + MeanSquare

Folks,
I've set up another thread for the Handtop vs PDA discussion so this one can get back on topic.
Continue the other debate here.

Recent Blog: MeanSquare's Review of the Sony UX (with comparison to OQO)

05/02/06 + anthonyb

Just listened to the podcast for the first time and have to say that tnkgrl really, really did a great job. I was very impressed with her during this interview and actually proud that I have an association with her through this forum.

It's very clear that tnkgrl is not "sucking up" to Jory by any means contrary to what has been suggested by some people in this thread. This was not a cream puff interview.

Atta boy tnkgrl.

Recent Blog: Smartercase with ultra clip for OQO

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