ecsk2 said: "Are you familiar with the VUEFLO feature of the x7500?
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ecsk2 said: "

Heh look at what I ran accross, as you mention you like the iPhone and now have that HTC on its way...check this out

QUOTE: "Hardware: HTC X7500 and a BT Mouse
Software: Teksoft Bluemouse and WM6 Remote Desktop

Note: Remote Desktop was working in 3G/HSDPA "

That is getting very close to what I have been talking about, instead of cramping it all in so to speak into your UMPC using remote access..."

educationk12 said: "

What device is that? It's kinda loud where I am at, so either they didn't say or I can't catch what they said with regard to what device it is...they mention not being able to get a device here in Brazil...um, EBAY? Clearly it isn't an iPhone or the X7500. Is that WM6? The nice thing about the iPhone is rather than a blank white screen above, you type into the application itself...but maybe they are just typing into some blank application. I guess I don't know what screen keyboard they are using? Looks like one of those QVGA products."

educationk12 said: "

I had the same conclusion about the iPhone prior to buying it. Using the device for a month has changed my view...I didn't expect it to be anything more than a good phone & iPod.

It's not perfect that's for sure...but I haven't found anything better...I'm open to suggestions."

educationk12 said: "

It's not perfect that's for sure...but I haven't found anything better...I'm open to suggestions."

educationk12 said: "

Yeh, I have decided serious typing is for my Thinkpad. I probably won't use the keyboard as it looks like an afterthought. My issue with the OQO as far as size is concerned is it is a bit on the heavy side for the pocket even if you could keep it turned on, but it's also on the thick size...something thinner would fit better in jeans than something thicker. Combine that with the issue of having to turn the OQO off when in pocket and feeling like you need to carry a power supply and/or a extra batteries makes your UMPC more of a PC.

The HTC seems smaller than the OQO. 35 percent thinner! 1/2 an inch wider (yet that is angled on both ends of this width) and nearly half an inch shorter. So overall it is considerably smaller, but still larger than it needs to be...they could have made this smaller with a higher resolution screen...which sucks."

educationk12 said: "

Did you like this feature? Seems like it might make viewing somewhat awkward when tilting? Do you have to have the keyboard attached to use vueflo?

I'm a bit concerned that you got rid of it in a week? Other than it being too large...I'm thinking of replacing my iPhone and OQO with this device. I mean it's one-half inch wider (and while that it is technically wider, it's the angled edges which make it wider...which I suspect was for the stupid keyboard), yet about half an inch shorter and over a third thinner than the OQO 02. Seems a lot more portable to me...more pocketable."

educationk12 said: "

OMG, that is AWESOME!!!! I'm so looking forward to the HTC X7501. It supports FULL SCREEN!!!

link

At any rate, this is really great news!

WM6 now supports 800x480...I wonder if there is a 5" display that is touchscreen...mod? haha"

ecsk2 said: "

See that's why I'd like to try the iPhone for a while, I wouldn't mind being wrong, please share what changed your mind about what!"

ecsk2 said: "

I frankly do 99% of my serious typing (emails) on my mobilephone as of the past 4 or so years, and process some 100-400 emails daily.

One thing that bothers me on the WM devices is that they "release" the WWAN connection unless you have something like Skype runing and then the battery time is rel short "

educationk12 said: "
CONS FIRST
You Tube is gimmicky, i.e. nearly worthless.[/qupte]

Afaik it is just like I predicted a link to the m.youtube site link
since you can NOT access the "regular" youtube from the browser, well not show the movie clips anyhow.

[quote=educationk12]
Heavy use throughout the day might mean you should charge it before going to sleep.."

educationk12 said: "
Stocks feature...well, it just reminds me how poor I am with money!"

educationk12 said: "
No GPS thus google maps is handy but not very useful...no traffic, voice turn by turn, just reading...good way to get pulled over"

educationk12 said: "
When you delete an email in yahoo or gmail, it doesn't delete in your account"

educationk12 said: "
Strangers will talk to you about your phone and want to touch it and go through it.
Those few hostile anti-apple people who have never used the device will try to rain on your parade. I had one guy tell me that he disliked fanboys who squirt all of themselves over the iPhone and went on and on about how stupid people like me are...quite comical to hear it...don't bash it until you've used it for a long time is my philosophy. I don't act like an expert on products I haven't tried, but I can say I have tried similar products sometimes, but nobody can say that about the iPhone, so the critics usually haven't used the device for a long time."

educationk12 said: "
No remote desktop"

educationk12 said: "
No SQL/Frameworks/Office Apps"

educationk12 said: "
No SD slot"

educationk12 said: "
I can't say not being able to take the battery out...I kinda like this feature because it charges via USB but some might not...seems to make sense to me, it makes it thinner.
EDGE"

educationk12 said: "
PROS
Charges via USB
Rarely have connectivity issues
Calendar/Schedule is very UI friendly and easy, efficient...not cumbersome/complicated like Outlook
Camera takes pretty good pictures and you can view them on 100 percent of the screen...again the UI is very nice, not complicated
Google maps is very similar to what you'd get on a regular computer.
As silly as this sounds, the 7 day weather feature is nice and I'm not into weather...it's just an easy feature that shows the whole week without it interferring with anything, takes 1 second and it's gone...just savvy UI as I'll say again and again
Alarm Clock feature ROCKS...it's hard to explain, but the clock, stopwatch, timer is so quick to set and better options...just easy
Calculator is like a real calculator...it just works by the touch without you having to touch special on the screen like so many smartphones, it's like a button calculator
It's very efficient in letting you know if there is WIFI around and you select EDGE and it leaves you alone about the WIFI and of course you can go back...it's just easy, not buggy.
Of course, the iPod feature
Safari Web browser...I'm sure there are a zillion YouTube videos, it's just great...of course I wish it was in a higher resolution screen, yet considering it is only 320x480...it's quite remarkable what it displays unlike a very similar resolution with WM5...WM5 browser in all the devices I used was horrific."

educationk12 said: "
I have multiple email accounts, I get a little vibrate each time one comes in and I can check it really quickly, delete it and it's still in my inbox...no need to sign in EVER, it's always signed in monitoring all my email accounts at once. Receiving emails can't be any easier and replying is great...not all email messages work but 100x more so than WM5 did."

educationk12 said: "
Visual VOICEMAIL - if I sell this iphone for the x7501...this is the feature I will miss the most, I HATE calling my voicemail to hear that stupid lady go through the same instructions/announcements each time I want to check the lame..."hey, it's me, call me back" message. Visual voicemail makes it as quick as one tap and you can select the voicemail. I have never loved voicemail so much."

educationk12 said: "
Of course I think the keyboard is superior to all UMPC/phone keyboards."

educationk12 said: "
The headphone mute/answer call feature is neat.
I suspect there are a lot of other things that could be said, but...
HSDPA at $20/mo for any HSDPA capable device.
Wifi works great
I've not babied this phone and yet I still don't have a scratch. I even dropped it on tile and thought surely it got damaged, it didn't even turn off...it's rock solid
turning speaker phone on and off is easy and going from keypad and just overall flexibility to talk to up to SIX people is cool

In conclusion, it's the USER INTERFACE. Apple has made this few features this phone does offer compared to all the third party applications you can add to other smart(er) phones, it's not complicated, it works very easily and quickly, common sense OS design...WM makes everything such a chore. I can't explain how the OS on this phone works so well, flicking your finger to scroll through things, zooming by pinching....it's just a very easy device to use all the features without the headaches I would get with other smartphones/pocketPC...whatever you call it.."

educationk12 said: "
I will say I will like the expandability of applications with the HTC, but for Apple's first "smart" phone, I have to say they really put every other company to shame when it comes to coming out with a first product. The OS on this is incredible. I suspect if Apple had been doing this as long as Windows, then it'd be more fair to compare the expandability of WM6 to OSX...but they are the new kids in town and I think they I got my money's worth. The only interest in the x7501 is because I find the OQO lacking...I'm pleased with the iPhone."

educationk12 said: "
YES, that is something I found dreadful with WM5. Just stay connected 24/7...stop this nonsense of having to reconnect. Make it seemless, that's what the iphone does. Occassionally, you might have an issue, but it's so rare that isn't not annoying."

educationk12 said: "
EVDO pc cards have the same stuff in them, it's software based as if you have a pc card in a pc card router it gets rid of the dormant mode. I have no patience for connectivity issues...there's no reason for it."

educationk12 said: "
Hopefully WM6 will be better.

Oh, yes you had WM5 on the X7500 unless you were able to get your hands on WM6 and upgraded it, otherwise it was like every other x7500...to my knowledge the only improvement in the x7501 is WM6 Professional whereas x7500s have WM5."

educationk12 said: "
WM6 has several versions...Classic, Standard, Professional, etc. Professional being the best and generally for larger devices like the x7501. I think WM5 didn't have this distinction with that OS version."

ecsk2 said: "Btw have you tried the totally FREE SOONR on your iPhone?

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